Thursday, July 31, 2008

Trades, division races, and Manny. This is getting good.

The trade deadline moves have stolen the headlines and rightfully so, but whomever made the schedule should get bought a cold one for the matchups that have fallen on a weekend where MLB needs to stake a claim or get lost in the Olympic shuffle. Dodgers/D-Backs separated by one game and getting together for a four-game set at Chavez Ravine. The first place Angels going through Boston, then stopping in NYC for four nights with both of those teams chasing the Rays and needing to win the series. Cubs & Brewers going 1 & 2, and battling in Milwaukee. Lastly, in the AL Central, in case you’ve forgotten, the Sox and Twins are within a couple of games and will square off. Now Jr. coming to town and bringing HR’s with him with the hope that is veteran leadership will bring the South Siders together in time to hold on down the stretch. What do you think is the best match up, division race, and trade beneficiary?

20 comments:

pat h said...

People on here trying to minimize this like its not a big deal and saying Manny is in a decline should get their head out of their arses. Manny is still one of the best hitters in the game, this does the Red Sox in for good. Bad move Theo, you out GM'd yourself. Really, Jason Bay for Manny ???

orpikpens44 said...

As a Sox fan who lives in Pittsburgh, I'm very happy with this deal. The Pirates get some young players, and the Sox get a good left fielder who will fit in very well. Bay is not a H.O.F. slugger like Manny, but he's definitely a better fielder, and a good "team player". Bay has put up good numbers in Pittsburgh, which is a park that is not kind to right-handed hitters. He should put lots of dents in the Green Monster, and play hard everyday.

Belleair said...

Go Rays Go Rays Go Rays Go Rays

Yankees SUCK......Red Sox SUCK.....

Shift in power in the American League East....THE RAYS.....one of lowest payrolls are kicking your arse!!

chris14 said...

letting pedro go actually turned out to be a great move (look at his injury ridden stats since he left)
2) letting roger go was also a good move because no one knew he was going to roid up after that and become so dominant (and is good not to have a whole bunch of cheaters on your team-- like yankees)

I think Boston still would have won a WS with nomar, and I think manny will be great for another 3 years.

Its not worth giving up 7mil and 2 major league players for a worse outfielder.

redmedez said...

This is the first time Boston fans are really pissed off since the Patriots lost the Super Bowl.

I'm from Boston and this is a great day for me, glad were not going to pay a 37 soon to be 38 yr old player 20 million for another year.

I know it's true us here in Boston usually aren't upset with all the success we've been having, but for me I am Excited

Anonymous said...

To add injury to insult they are actually paying the salary of Manny in LA..

barroid bonds said...

any sox fans complaining about this deal are idiots. They got exactly what they needed....a guy that puts up numbers like Manny in return. Now they got a clubhouse guy and lose the cancer that is Manny. He obviously didn't want to be on the team anymore. The prospects that Sox gave up will not be all-stars ever anyway.

basedrum said...

Redsox lost a lot today. Manny did a lot of hitting for that team. You think anyone will be worried about pitching around Ortiz now? Bay is good but has zero postseason or pressure experience. He may be better at defense (how can he not be) but Manny could play the wall pretty well. I don't see how this could be spun in the Redsox favor considering they traded the best player, prospects (I hear Moss is good) and cash. Even as a distraction Manny was their best option for the next two years which they had him for if they wanted him with the options. I don't like Manny but he can hit.

yanks=rings said...

Ha ha ha the Dodgers still suck and last nights game was a perfect example. Bottom nine, down one, runner on first, Andrew "17 mil" Jones at the plate, fly out. game over. two games back. Manny will not make a difference that his attitude will come out and he will become a cancer as always. Poison Pill in LA. Have fun Joe, you should have stayed in NY!!

phillies 1983 said...

Ramirez is not the hitter he once was, who hit .325 with 40+ homeruns. It remains to be seen how well Bay does in Boston, but there can be an argument made in support of Bay over Ramirez. Bay actually has value on defense and is again hitting like he did prior to his poor 2007 season.
Watch as Ramirez comes up with more reasons to sulk in L.A.. He's a me-me guy and L.A. doesn't have the right-handed hitter-friendly park that Boston does. His stats will suffer and he'll whine about whatever he can come up with... CANCER!!!

stofi619 said...

This is the second L.A. sports franchise to steal a top quality player from another sports franchise in 2008. First the Lakers robbed the Memphis Grizzlies when they acquired Pau Gasol and now the Dodgers just robbed the Red Sox for a future hall-of-famer in Manny Ramirez. Hey Manny!...don't forget your cell-phone! This is unbelievable! Way to go L.A.!

stofi619 said...

This is the second L.A. sports franchise to steal a top quality player from another sports franchise in 2008. First the Lakers robbed the Memphis Grizzlies when they acquired Pau Gasol and now the Dodgers just robbed the Red Sox for a future hall-of-famer in Manny Ramirez. Hey Manny!...don't forget your cell-phone! This is unbelievable! Way to go L.A.!

TobyOnotoby said...

Manny was in the process of quitting on the team, like he did in 2006. He's older now and he gets legitimate inflammation/sorenes s in his knees, but he only plays through it when he wants to. He didn't want to this year, at least not for the Red Sox. It was a contract year, the team's loaded, Ortiz was out, Manny could have given a huge superstar performance and carried the team back to the World Series, making it clear he's The Man, not Ortiz. What more motivation could he need?? Instead, the Sox were on the verge of getting a half-azzed performance out of him the rest of the season and then losing him in the off-season. The worst injury is when a player blows a head gasket; the only treatment is a trade.

pat h said...

I'm a Yankee fan and the champagne is flowing at my house tonight !!!!! When I heard the report that the Sox were even thinking of trading Manny I said no way. This is like Christmas in July !!! Thanks Theo... This will rank 2nd to the Sox trading Ruth as an all time blunder. The Sox could have won again this year, NOT NOW !!!!

pat h said...

I'm a Yankee fan and the champagne is flowing at my house tonight !!!!! When I heard the report that the Sox were even thinking of trading Manny I said no way. This is like Christmas in July !!! Thanks Theo... This will rank 2nd to the Sox trading Ruth as an all time blunder. The Sox could have won again this year, NOT NOW !!!!

steeler ga said...

I love how the Yankee fans are acting like this is good for them. Look at the numbers. Bay is just as good offensively (in spite of playing in a park that's not friendly to him and him being surrounded by people other teams don't fear) and he kicks the crap out of Manny defensively.

Not only that, he's younger and not a cancer. The Sox got the best of this deal by far.

worcdirty said...

OH shut up people you know Manny is just being Manny and he still got it going on and you idiots are just mad.

well

1. he's called out the front office like 4 times this season and twice in the past week
2. he's shoved a traveling secratary to the ground
3. he's shoved kevin youkalis in the face in public, in the dugout
4. he's purposely botched balls (in Anaheim especially)
5. he dogged it down the line when there was a no-hitter in progress and he had a great opportunity to beat it out.

time for him to take the thumb out of his mouth and grow up

soxfan63 said...

As a diehard Red Sox fan I'd like to offer a little input. First, I loved Manny and all his quirkiness but something seriously changed this year. And I believe the reaction that you see from some Sox fans is just a little "hurting" on their part. Manny was much loved by the fans in Boston, even the many many times that he didn't deserve to be. They always had his back so a little bitterness at this point should be understood. You see, every time he dogged it, came up with phantom injuries etc. etc. etc. it was an indirect slap in the face to all who loved and supported him and made excuses for him. And when your teamates give up on you, well, to me that speaks volumes. I can only imagine what we DON'T all know, as baseball fans, about everything that actually goes on in a clubhouse. As Dodger fans you will probably not get to know that part of Manny...its unlikely they will pay him what he wants. So enjoy the next 3 months because you will most likely see him at his absolute best. And keep track of him if and when he does go elsewhere...i'm probably pretty sure (my favorite Third Eye Blind lyrics :) ) that he wll feel secure enough to go back to exactly what he has been for his whole career (Cleveland and Boston)..and that is Manny being Manny and ALL that comes with that. I just hope no senior citizens get in his way again!

enyo63 said...

There are so many Red Sox still bad mouthing Manny!!!! What is up with that. Get a grip... This is exactly why Manny left. The Red Sox are not what they seem to be. They talk to much and will bad mouth you the minute you have that one bad day. I'm glad Manny left. He is a very private person and dealing with the Red Sox was just about 5,ooo pounds on your back. I love you Manny and I think you're great. I wish you all the best in the Dodgers. Keep it real baby and God Bless You and your family.............. .. a YANKEE FAN AT THAT

deb.dellapiana said...

Of course Manny's energized! He got what he wanted! He got out of Boston and he'll be a free agent at the end of the season. That's what he wanted. And so did Scott Boras.

Think about it: When the season started he was the "don't worry, be happy guy." Oh yeah, he was a changed man. He wanted to STAY in Boston. He wanted Boston to exercise his option. Then, he switched to Scott Boras and became the beast with 10 fingers. Suddenly, he had "knee problems" and decided he wasn't well enough to play. When the Sox called his bluff, he got pissed off. Then, the Sox were bad to him. We didn' t deserve him. It went downhill fast and wierd. Can't you smell Scott Boras behind that?

Manny led a charmed life in Boston. While players like Kevin Youkilis and Dustin Pedroia grind it out and make things happen, Manny barely had to run. His fielding was mediocre. He could go behind the Green Monster and make phone calls. Management was anything but bad to him. He was a first class prima donna. However, when you go from being lazy to punching out your teammates and 60-year-old employees, that's all anyone should have to tolerate. I'll give it to you that Manny is a great hitter and a lock on the Hall of Fame. But that's where his legacy ends. Can you imagine what Manny could have done had he cared about being the best at all facets of the game?

Instead, he's chosen to be entitled like oh so many of his contemporaries. Bye, Manny. Don't let the door whack you on the butt on the way out.

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